6/13/07

my pet peeve du jour

actually it's been a lot of "jours" but i've held my tongue...er, fingers because I didn't want to offend but yesterday I went and offended because I had had enough of seeing it and I apologize for that. But I'm pissed. "I've started running and the scale is up, but I'm ok with it because I know it's muscle" note: not a DIRECT quote. NOTE WELL: I have read this MULTIPLE TIMES ON THE BOARDS AND ON BLOGS so do NOT take it personally. Also note: I am not a science girl, but I have read up on this crap enough to make some a somewhat informed decision. If I'm way off base, feel free to send me hate mail. ok... You can't be building enough muscle after a couple of weeks of running to notice a significant shift on your scale. I'm fairly certain we are seeing water weight. Sure, it may be water weight IN YOUR MUSCLE because you are tearing them down when you're pounding the pavement. We gotta burn those calories somewhere, right? After, your muscles are sucking up that water for dear life because they're afraid you're going to go out there and do something stupid again, like say run! The reason you're seeing MORE MUSCLE DEFINITION (an excerpt that someone pointed out to try and kibosh a theory I had posted against this whole muscle gain) is because you're burning fat and revealing the muscle underneath. You're performing a cardiovascular training activity, not resistance training unless you're running with weights or performing other movements while running, am i right? There will be no bulking up, ladies. It's getting you leaner but tearing stuff down so your body loses a lot and overcompensates by storing water/glycogens later on like a little squirrel for winter and that's why you see a small blip on your scale. OR you see that blip because your appetite has increased and so has your intake in food, and perhaps you aren't as honest with yourself. You do have to be conscious of the fuel you put in your body when you run because a low caloric diet with strenuous workouts will run you a deficit and lead to binging. You need to find a happy medium. But again, I'm no expert and I welcome the opportunity for you to set me straight. Me - I notice I am down 1-2lbs right after a run from water loss but will be right back to normal the next day. But I also lift weights four times a week so I have never noticed this "muscle gain" that everyone talks about. But people are following expert plans and taking classes (sometimes taught by people who know no better and will tell you silly things just like that. I actually just found a post on the GDT from a learn to run instructor who said it's muscle. CLASSIC), so they should ask the nutritionists & physiotherapists that will come into visit them, much like I had in my Running Room class. Until then, the shooting gallery is open. Feel free to fire away.

20 comments:

Jen said...

I have nothing to fire...I don't run!!!

I also don't weigh myself after the gym so I don't know how that affects me either!!!

I DID want to say that I ♥ you feistiness and your opinions...you are such a "take-no-crap" girl

Carolyn said...

*sigh*

thank you.

I see this so often, and despite the many good things WW has to offer, I find that so many people (myself included at one time) get way too focused on the scale.

I also hate when people say that muscle weighs more than fat. 1lb muscle is the same weight as 1lb of fat..the just take up LESS SPACE!

But this whole "I am up 1lb I must be gaining muscle" after a few weeks of exercise, is one of my pet peeves of many jours as well!

~paige~ said...
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~paige~ said...

the above deleted comment was mine because i had wayyy too many typos
Marie and Carolyn...I agree 100%. Especially on the whole "I gained 1 pound but muscle weighs more then fat and I did go to the gym last week"...come on peeps. A pound is a pound is a pound. I think some people are just looking for a reason why the scale didn't tell them what they thought it should. Of course there are those who are just plain lying to themselves and need to hear an excuse. I have been there. Now I just keep it real.

Anonymous said...

I hear/see this all the time, too, and it frustrates me, as well. I guess people need a "positive" reason for seeing a small gain, so they like the "building muscle" excuse. Our bodies are miraculous machines, but there is no way a woman that takes up walking (or running) three times a week has gained muscle after only two weeks!!!! Yet, I've heard it time and again at my WW meetings.

Sarah said...

Thanks, Marie. I'm guilty, I'll admit it! I say all kinds of things to convince myself that the number on the scale is somehow not *my* fault. But it is and I need to get my ass back in gear and start tracking everything exactly. Thanks for the kick in the ass, I definitely needed it.

Sara said...

You can gain weight from muscle if you are in an escrow period of gaining muscle and not losing fat - yet this has to be done from weight lifting (as you said the only thing that will build muscle) and it takes AT LEAST 6 weeks to build enough muscle where you can see it on the scale. This argument drives me nuts - a women at my meeting worked out twice, stayed the same and said it must've been the muscle she gained and the leader did nothing to refute this - got my blood boiling!!

Anonymous said...

There is a reason WW takes your weight WEEKLY. Marie, you're too obsessed with the scale, to be up or down 2 lbs is normal - you look good, you feel good, do yourself a favour and weight yourself once a week not every five minutes.

Mojo

marie said...

mojo - i ♥ you and i don't weigh myself every five mins. i was just making a point about running...

Natalie said...

Amen, sista!

Leanne Vidler said...

Well.. it was me that had posted this on my blog and got the comment. Really and honestly, I was a bit taken aback because all of your other comments have been so positive.

I should do some reading on it, I agree... I just was taken back. It was what I understood to be true and I was wrong, okay. Fair enough. I would love to read some articles on this so if you could point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it.

I even checked out my RR manual to see if I could find something on this - and came up empty...

Marie, I don't want this to be a problem with us.. I really do appreciate your support. Maybe just a gentler approach to the greener ones... who can feel defeated pretty easier, a point to where you can find this information.

Thank you again for being such a great support. Your blog has taught me so much!

Green Girl said...

thank you, for that! It irritates me as well when someone who had exercised for two weeks, says "it's muscle gain". Both of the explanations you've provided are what I believe as well - it's either water retention, or you started eating too much.

oh, and I hope your new scale is behaving itself! I find digital scales to be quite unreliable, even though they provide us with the .00 acuracy... :)

Bi0nicw0man said...

You are so wise!!!

(that is all)

:)

jodi said...

i used to lift weights 3x/week and do cardio 3x/week but once i swapped to weights 2x/week and cardio 3-5x/week - things have gone much smoother... maybe try switching-up your routine for a few weeks and see what happens... i'm anxious to see what happens to me once i stop training for this 5K - might be in for a rude awakening... :-o

Shirls said...

If I coould write so that what I really want to say actually came out and across it would be your blog... once again I agree!

Anonymous said...

Marie, I wub you too.

Mojo

Wheebs said...

Haha, I see it all the time, and I completely agree!

Amuldoon said...

I think it comes down to WW not being designed properly for athletes and very active individuals. (And yes Marie, you ARE an athelete. )

I look at people like Mandy, (SHE FRIGGIN ROCKS!) who've lost a kazillion pounds without exercising... and then I look at myself who started WW at 265 and lead a sedentary life... and now I run/workout like crazy and the scale is rarely budging. Something just isn't right. But I love exercise, and the way it makes me feel.

Weird. Just friggin weird.

Shrunk said...

Right as always :O)

Shannon said...

i see that ALL TH TIME too and totally 100% agree. it bothers me too. thanks for addressing it.

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